91 Madeira Consorcio Meeting 19.8.2017

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Topic: Consciousness

We discussed Dr Bruce Greyson, doctor of psychiatry, University of Virginia

Studies the relationship between brain and consciousness. He recognises that in normal life there is a very clear link between the two; if you receive a blow to your head or

if you drink too much alcohol, you will experience that your thought process is less clear and focused.  However we cannot prove or observe what causes a thought or an emotion. A single neuron

cannot think or feel anything. The evolution of our way of approaching  this matter in science, follows the same way as did our approach to physics, evolving from Newton to Einstein.

Just like the theory that the brain causes the consciousness is a reasonably good model for everyday situations, so too newtonian physics is a reasonably good model for everyday objects moving at speeds that are observable to the naked eye. It is only when we deal with extreme situations like the brain approaching death or microscopic parcels travelling at the speed of light, that the old models are no longer applicable. For physics we developed a new paradigm called quantum physics and when it came to studies of the mind, physicists had to recognise consciousness as a fundamental part of existence – INDEPENDENT of matter.

There are 4 lines of evidence of consciousness without a brain:

  1. Deathbed recovery of lost consciousness
  2. Complex consciousness with minimal brain (U: discussion to be continued on this point)
  3. Near death experiences
  4. memories of past lives.

Examples of nr 1 : people with severe brain damage (from tumours, alzheimers etc) who had lost all power of thinking or communicating, regained both these things shortly before dying. We have absolutely no explanation for this fact, yet in a study, 70 % of caregivers reported of such phenomena.

Examples of nr 2: people who have lost the use of a significant part of the brain, but yet are able to perform well. One lady who after an accident was left with only a brainstem and no cortex

(cortex is the place where our thinking happens) still she was able to continue as a student at university. People with “hydrocephalus” – a decease that lets fluid leak into the brain. In one person fluid took up 90% of the brain, leaving no space for complex thinking, and still he had over a hundred in an intelligence test.

Example of nr 3: People who are clinically dead (so without trace of brain activity) who still relate vivid experiences when they are resuscitated. These experiences can be verifiable, such as the accounts of what happened during the resuscitation (what machinery was used, what people were in the room etc.) People who claimed to have had a NDE described their resuscitation correctly, whereas people who did not have NDE but was asked to try to remember their resuscitation, related it incorrectly.

People who claim to have had NDE typically describe an altered sense of time, a sudden understanding, clearer thought process, feeling of belonging, peace and joy. However there is such a thing as negative NDEs. How often they occur seems to vary between different investigations, but somewhere between 2 and 14 percent seems to be the norm. In this context I would like to underline

that most of the studies involve people who have been dead for 15 to 20 minutes. Very often they have been aware that there was a line beyond which there was no return, so we don’t actually know what experiences they would have had beyond that line.

Examples of 4: young children who report having had past lives. They typically never report on having been some very well know person, but just ordinary people whose lives were typically ended in an abrupt or violent way. In 63% of cases these people of the past were traceable and accounts of their death verifiable.

Book links : hold on to your shoelaces…

Food of the Gods.pdf


Dawkins. Richard – Deus, um Delírio.pdf (in particular pg 74 vis a vis “the prayers”)


Many Lives, Many Masters (Brian L. Weiss).pdf


Espejos del Tiempo (Brian L. Weiss).pdf


Only Love Is Real – The Story of Soulmates Reunited (Dr. Brian Weiss).pdf


Nosso Lar (Chico Xavier).pdf


Desobsessão (Francisco Xavier).pdf



74 Madeira Consorcio Meeting 15.10.2015

October 18, 2015 at 10:20 am | Posted in Posts | Leave a comment
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We welcomed Du. A. as guest, he gave us a presentation of his “ML” project.

He started it three years ago because he lost his job, and opted for an entrepreneur’s approach. The Name is based on a franchise from Lisbon, the chain aims to promote high quality souvenirs, produced in Portugal, more modern and appealing to a younger crowd.

Lisbon expanded to Porto; they are planning a shop in Rio as well.

ML has a shop in the airport which brings in more profit every month; unfortunately, the shop will have to go because the airport was sold to the VINCI group. They will redesign the airport and push the shops to a mall on the third floor. Also ML would be in competition with one of Vinci’s outlets so Du. is looking for a new 1a location in Town (the shop behind Mercado – where our Beach Basket now resides and attracts people – is not doing that well).

Du. presented his product line, also upcoming new items, and we liked what we saw! Some details: Textile products are not made in Madeira but on the mainland. Aprons are a hit with the tourists. He also sells canned Tuna.

He has a staff of four. He is also selling the products to other high class outlets and surprisingly, Summer is the best season. He is not working with the “old time” shops, they don’t understand the different approach and stuff his products in some corner. The Story Centre is dead, the space doesn’t seem to have the right location. Good news for him: He will get a shop in the Cruise Ship Terminal, this should give him good turnover.

E. suggested that he contact the organizers of special events, such as Funchal Jazz and the Organ Festival; their visitors want to buy a memento from a concert. We also had another great idea for him.

We might set up a meeting with Turismo with D. and Du to get the point across, they listen much better to a proposal coming from a foreigner.

By the way: the German Consulate is organizing weddings on Madeira, and the numbers are increasing rapidly!

We also spoke about the ad idea from Ursula. The idea is to channel citizen’s ideas to the government via small (free) newspaper ads. The group was in favour of this.

U. and D. are in contact with the Diario for other ads on a weekly English page in the Diario but the Newspaper is overworked and understaffed. E. has a good contact to the Manager of JM, he will talk to him to set up a meeting, other members will be approached to help as well.

As we have very few birds on both islands, R. brought the idea that people should be encouraged to build birds nests, U. mentioned insect houses which are not for honey bees but for wild bees, they carry a much bigger percentage of the pollination process. The negative impact on the birds and insects stems from the extensive use of insecticides.

We discussed the compensation companies have to give to the city when they get building permits. They are obliged to repave roads when they damaged them with their lorries but they try to get away with the minimum instead of doing more and incurring the goodwill of the long-suffering neighbours. Suggestions for such compensation could come from the citizens, they know best what is needed in their street.

Our next meeting will be on Nov 19.

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