68 joint Madeira Consorcio Meeting 12.3.2015

Mar 15, 2015 at 12:20 pm | Posted in Posts | Leave a comment
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Unfortunately, the surgeon couldn’t come, so we started with Ri.’s introduction to the system he used to find his purpose in life.

This is based on a technique by an American author (John F. Strelecky “The Big Five for Life”, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Strelecky#The_Big_Five_for_Life-_Leadership.E2.80.99s_Greatest_Secret

This is a humanistic approach, about team building for executives (it should also be offered to teenagers) and the application for the work in groups. Most important is that a person knows what he/she most wants to accomplish (the Big Five) in life. Most people work not in the jobs or even fields they would really like to work in, Ri. found that the career in the military was not for him. A person’s occupation should be fun, not just a means to earn money. It should be about “Auto-Estimo”, not egoism.

If we try to work towards the goals we really embrace, we will have more satisfaction in the workplace. This also helps the company achieve its goals, with a lower staff turnover and subsequently, better profits.

Ri. is offering this teamwork program to specific high-value companies. He fuses this with his own approach. This technique requires a group to work together 2 x 1 week in two years.

Some companies work along the lines of Strelecky, such as Richard Bransons’s companies, Google, AirBnB and others, empowering their team to do what like best and reaping more creativity and profits.

We want to buy and read the book in turns and then talk about it further, perhaps to apply this process to us

Other, similar approaches:

Ricardo Semler: http://www.ted.com/talks/ricardo_semler_radical_wisdom_for_a_company_a_school_a_life Ricardo Semler also created schools based on his laissez-faire approach which works very well for this companies and the schools.

Tom Wujec: http://www.ted.com/talks/tom_wujec_got_a_wicked_problem_first_tell_me_how_you_make_toast#


D. talked about tax controls and the loss of privacy. It is much worse than Edward Snowdon revealed. Anonymity also means freedom. With more transparency, our right to invest our money how we want is being curtailed. D. now sees his job as to protect his clients from the Tax Man.

Apps like WhatsApp know our every move. The solution would be turn them off and deny them access to our lives: The Amish between themselves know where everybody lives; the state doesn’t have a clue.

In the old times in Portugal, people would be called by nicknames. In theses village societies, everybody also knew what was going on in everybody else’s life, and oppression was exercised by the priest. In this regard today’s life is not much different; the loss of privacy is nothing new.

In Portugal the problem is bad education. Good leadership skils are not taught, nor are good life skills. Waldorf is a good approach to create personalities with a humanistic approach. In Portugal the problem is attitude, attitude, attitude, and a missing civic sense. Outside of Portugal, the Portuguese are well liked workers; in their own country, they don’t care much about their society.

Another funny thing: in a “happiness poll”, it was found that the feeling of happiness decreases from North to South in Portugal. In the North, communities are still sounder and people thrive better in old-fashioned social networks.

On the other hand. isolation cannot solve all the problems. What we can do is show our happiness so that others ask us how we came to be in this state.

U. quickly referred to the Fracking article by the Economist. Fracking is prohibited in New York State but not across the border in Pennsylvania. It is most likely bad for the environment but the point here is that the people in New York State want to secede from their state and join Pennsylvania across the border to gain jobs and earn money with this technique. The future may be a world with less visible borders as economic interest compels citizens to choose another legal jurisdiction for their community.






Mar 9, 2015 at 9:24 am | Posted in Posts | Leave a comment
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Translated from an article in Der Spiegel, March 2015, on the proliferation of mobile phones in the world:

The freedom of the individual to not be effective.

The Society has the right to refuse change.

67 Meeting minutes – Madeira Consorcio Meeting Feb 12, 2015

Mar 1, 2015 at 1:44 pm | Posted in Posts | Leave a comment
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We decided on who would be moderator, A. would be for the time being.  We discussed what the group wanted from the moderator:

  • E.: The moderator should be someone who has the basic interest of the group in mind, to be able to steer conversations/meeting like a boat.
  • Others: That everyone should get to speak, keep track of the conversations and intervene should someone speak too much or too little
  • Some basic rules were established:
    • Turn off mobile phones
    • Punctuality
    • The meetings would typically run from 6,30pm to 8.00pm


Structure of meetings

  • To send suggestions of the topics for the next meeting beforehand for consideration
  • Some meetings would be focused around listening and learning from other people (e.g. like at fire station)
  • Sometime near the beginning to discuss feedback form the previous meeting


Previous meeting at Fire station

U. gave a brief recap on the previous meeting, saying the fellow responded honestly and transparently to a wide range of questions; from E.´s experience at Monte to the politicised nature under which the service has been under (but improving e.g. 3 members under disciplinary orders for voicing their opinions).

Book “My Ishmael” and “The Story of B” by Daniel Quinn

U. and E. shared their insights from a book they both read; A gorilla learns to speak and essentially reflects back to the girl, with whom he is in conversation with, on the nature of society.  Amongst what is no doubt a complex issue a few points arose:


    • Humans forget their history/ancestry
    • Society is divided into taker and leaver societies.  Taker societies exploit the world and leaver societies (e.g. Armish) allow for regeneration and long term existence
    • Taker societies absorb leaver societies, something which many youngsters feel disillusioned about and find difficulty in rationalising, as well as being deeply disturbing.
    • The focus is on how we educate our children and how we interact in our relations.  The example of the gorilla asking the girl “what is your story?” is really a foundation for us bridging our differences and sharing what is pertinent amongst ourselves.
    • C. mentioned a book she had read about hunter/gatherers and how they lived within their limits.


Ri. – purpose

Ri. reflected back to the group the notion of talking a lot but not getting anywhere.  As an exercise he suggested questioning “What is my purpose?”  This could be a personal question for each of us to discuss (or not) as well as being perhaps a question for the wider purpose of the group.

  • Ri. will talk about his experience, on purpose, in the next meeting.
  • D. likes listening and learning from others and enjoys exploring ideas in the free discussion that these meetings have,
  • E. feels it is quite nice not to have to define everything.

Next meeting on Thursday, March 12.

  • Ri.´s talk
  • The surgeon as well.

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